I said, "I have decided to defend myself against the many charges of me being a pessimist." She asked, "And is that possible with reality the way it is; with the crushing expectations of life?" I replied, "Are you suggesting that labels, once applied, are unable to be removed?" She answered, "There are times when the overgrown bushes need to be pulled out." I said, "Perhaps in our drive to be inhuman we need to curb our natural impulses." She said, "Or raise the level of preaching filling the pews with unwanted desires to achieve ordinariness."